Kashmir: Propagation of Islam and Terror of the Sufis

                           
How did Islam come to Kashmir?
 
 “It came through the peaceful missionary preaching of the Sufis,” comes the answer.

Sufis have been universally credited with the peaceful propagation of Islam around the world. An Islamic legend tells us that there was a king in Kashmir, at an uncertain point in time, who had no religion. One day, he wished to adopt a religion. Both Muslims and Hindus came to convince him. Their contradictory views left him rather confused, and resolved that, “he would embrace the religion of the first man he would meet in the street after coming out of his house the next morning” [Chapter 2, Baharistan-i-Shahi, an anonymous 17th-century Persian book on the history of Kashmir, translated by Prof. K. N. Pundit]. And it was a dervish [Sufi master], whom he encountered first the next morning. There he became a Muslim, and Kashmir became Islamic.

In many places, one encounters very similar Islamic legends: that a Sufi, through his supernatural power or this and that, converts a king. Thus, the place becomes Islamic peacefully—thanks to Islam’s prophets of peace, the Sufis.

A Kashmiri ex-Muslim friend, who wants eradication of Islam because of its barbaric teachings, nonetheless, told me about how Islam, however abhorrent and barbaric in nature, came to Kashmir through the peaceful preaching of Sufis. And now, how this peaceful valley of Islam has become a land of barbarism, thanks to Wahhabism—which he calls the real Quranic and prophetic Islam!!

And this impression, that Islam was peacefully propagated in Kashmir and around the world by the Sufis, is universally entertained by Muslim and non-Muslim scholars and historians alike. Ask Dr. Yoginder Sikant, the prominent scholar and historian of Islam, and an alleged specialist in Sufism. He would tell you the same.

And this paradigm is being successfully and exclusively propagated despite the fact that available historical records give an opposite picture.

It is hard to know when Islamic rule was established in Kashmir. Muhammad bin Qasim was in the preparation for an invasion of Kashmir in 715. Thereafter, Kashmir suffered a number of Islamic invasions; Sultan Mahmud, the master barbarian (although idolized by Muslims), had also led a failed expedition there. Caliph al-Mansur (r. 755–74) had sent an expedition under Hasham bin Amru for waging holy war against Hindu territories. Amongst many places, between Kandahar and Kashmir, he conquered, he “subdued Kashmir and took many prisoners and slave” [Elliot & Dawson, History of India as Told by Its Historians (it contains experts from Islamic chronicles), Vol. I, p. 122–23,203]. In 1033, Sultan Mahmud’s not-so-illustrious son, Sultan Masud I, made up for his illustrious father’s failure by launching “an attack on the fort of Sursuti in Kashmir. The entire garrison was put to the sword, except the women and children, who were carried away as slaves.”

While it is hard to establish which of these invasions established Islamic rule in Kashmir, the Sufis, Islam’s alleged prophets of peace, however had a prominent role in its Islamization, but it was a barbaric one.

About conversion of the masses to Islam in Kashmir, we get an idea of it around 1371 or 1381 CE, when Sayyid Ali Hamdani, a famous Sufi saint, arrived in Kashmir. The first thing he did was to build his khanqah [lodge orashram] on the site of “a small temple which was demolished…” [Baharistan, p. 36]. Before his coming to Kashmir, the reigning Sultan Qutbud-Din paid little attention to enforcing Islamic laws. In the tolerant local culture, Muslims at all levels of the society—including the Sultan, the Qadis [Qazi]—had all tolerantly and comfortably submerged themselves in the Hindu culture and customs of Kashmir [ibid, p. 37].

But Sufi saint Sayyid Hamdani was horrified by the un-Islamic practices of Kashmiri Muslims, and forbade this laxity and tried to revive orthodoxy. The reigning Sultan Qutbud-Din tried to adopt Islamic orthodoxy in his personal life, but “failed to propagate Islam in accordance with the wishes and aspirations of Amir Sayyid Ali Hamdani” [ibid]. As a result, the Sufi saint left Kashmir because of his reluctance to live in a land dominated by the idolatrous culture, customs and creed.

Later on, his son Amir Sayyid Muhammad, another great Sufi saint, came to Kashmir during the reign of the famous idol-breaker, Sultan Sikander. Sikander was not such a barbarian until the arrival of holy Sufi saint Sayyid Muhammad, who prodded the Sultan into enforcing the Islamic code in his domain. Unlike Sultan Qutbud-Din, Sikander agreed to the Sufi saint’s instruction. Sikander and Sayyid Muhammad, thus, formed an alliance to wipe out all signs of idolatry and its professors from Kashmir.

According to Muhammad Farishtah (d. 1614) [History of the Rise of the Mahomedan Power in India, Vol. IV, 1997 imprint, p. 268], a historian of Delhi Sultan, Sikandar issued an order:

…proscribing the residence of any other than Mahomedans in Kashmeer; and he required that no man should wear the mark on his forehead… Lastly, he insisted on all golden and silver images being broken and melted down, and the metal coined into money. Many of the bramins [Brahmins], rather than abandon their religion or their country, poisoned themselves; some emigrated from their native homes, while a few escaped the evil of banishment by becoming Mahomedans. After the emigration of the bramins, Sikundur [Sikandar] ordered all the temples in Kashmeer to be thrown down… Having broken all the images in Kashmeer, he acquired the title of the Iconoclast, Destroyer of Idols.

According to another 17^th-century Persian chronicle, HM Chadurah’s Tarikh-i-Kashmir, Sikandar “was constantly busy in annihilating the infidels and destroyed most of the temples…” [trans. Razia Bano, Delhi, 1991, p. 55].

This, to learned Farishtah, was Sultan Sikandar’s greatest achievement. And to whom goes the credit?

Find it out from the proud author of Baharistan-i-Shahi, who writes: “…the credit of wiping out the vestiges of infidelity and heresy from the mirror of the conscience of the dwellers of these lands,” goes to Sufi saint Sayyid Muhammad [p. 37].

Succeeding the Iconoclast, his son Ameer Khan (aka Ally Shah) continued the butchery of the remaining Hindus of Kashmir, as adds Farishtah, he “persecuted the few Brahmins who still remained firm in their religion; and by putting all to death, who refused to embrace Mahomedism. He drove those who still lingered in Kashmeer entirely out of that kingdom” [ibid, p. 269].

Next, the liberal and tolerant Sultan Zainul Abedin (1423–1474) brought relief to the brutalized non-Muslims: he allowed religious freedom, even let the forcibly converted Hindus to revert. This enabled the flourishing of Hinduism, “which had been stamped out in the [earlier] reign of Sultan Sikandar the Iconoclast” [ibid, p. 74]. Under deviant Zainul Abedin, records Sydney Owen, “many Hindus (i.e. Hindus converted to Islam by force) were re-admitted into the Hindu fold” [From Mahmud Ghazni to the Disintegration of Mughal Empire, Delhi, p. 127). The horrified author of Baharistan-i-Shahi notes of the ascendancy of Hinduism and decline of Islam under Sultan Zainul Abedin [p. 74]:

…the infidels and their corrupt and immoral practices attained such popularity that even the ulema, the learned [Sufis], the Sayyids [nobles] and the Qadis [Islamic judges] of this land began to observe them without exhibiting even the slightest repugnance for them. There was none to forbid them to do so. It resulted in a gradual weakening of Islam and a decay in its cannons and postulates; idol-worship and corrupt and immoral practices thrived.

And Zainul pursued his liberal policies, like Akbar, by defying and angering the pious. Persian scholar Mulla Ahmad, for example, wrote to him reminding that,

…the main object of levying the jiziyah on them is their humiliation… God establishedjiziyah for their dishonor. The object is their humiliation and the (establishment) of the prestige and dignity of the Muslims. [Quoted by KS Lal, Theory and Practice of MuslimState in India, p. 113]

But terror befell upon the non-Muslims of Kashmir again in the reigns of Malik Raina and Kaji Chak, who converted the Hindus to Islam by the sword, again instigated by another Sufi saint, Amir Shamsud-Din Muhammad Iraqi, the greatest Sufi saint to arrive in Kashmir.

Iraqi arrived in Kashmir after Malik Musa Raina became the administrator of Kashmir (1501). He formed alliance with Malik Raina, and with his patronage and authority, says Baharistan-i-Shahi [p. 93–94]:

Amir Shamsud-Din Muhammad undertook wholesale destruction of all those idol-houses as well as total ruination of the very foundation of infidelity and disbelief. On the site of every idol-house he destroyed, he ordered the construction of a mosque for offering prayers after the Islamic manner.

And “on the instance of Shamsud-Din Iraqi, Musa Raina had issued orders that everyday 1,500 to 2,000 infidels be brought to the doorstep of Mir Shamsud-Din by his followers. They would remove their sacred thread (zunnar), administer Kelima [Muslim profession of faith] to them, circumcise them and make them eat beef”; and, thus, “twenty-four thousand Hindu families were converted to Iraqi’s faith by force and compulsion (qahran wa jabran)” [ibid, p. 105–06].

Saintly Iraqi continued his horror acts, when Malik Kaji Chak became the military commander under Sultan Muhammad Shah in 1519. And “one of the major commands of Amir Shamsud-Din Muhammad Iraqi carried out by him [Kaji Chak] was the massacre of the infidels and polytheists of this land,” says Baharistan-i-Shahi [p. 116]. What happened is that, many of those, forcibly converted to Islam by Malik Raina, later reverted to “polytheism”  [Hinduism]. Muslims spread a rumor that these apostates “had placed a copy of the holy Quran under their haunches to make a seat to sit upon.” Upon hearing this, the enraged Sufi saint protested to Kaji Chak, saying [ibid, p. 117]:
 
 “This community of idolaters has, after embracing and submitting to the Islamic faith, now gone back to defiance and apostasy. If you find yourself unable to inflict punishment upon them in accordance with the provisions of Sharia [which is death for apostasy] and take disciplinary action against them, it will become necessary and incumbent upon me to proceed on a self-imposed exile.”

Note that Iraqi’s complaint does not mention the alleged disrespect of the Quran, but simply emphasize the Hindus’ abandonment of Islam after accepting it—i.e. their apostasy, punishment for which is death in Islam. In order to pacify the enraged Sufi saint, Malik Kaji Chak “decided upon carrying out wholesale massacre of the infidels,” says Baharistan-i-Shahi, which was scheduled to be carried out on the holy festival day of Ahsura[Muharram, 1518 CE; Iraqi was Shiite], and,

…about seven to eight hundred infidels were put to death. Those killed were the leading personalities of the community of infidels at that time. [p. 117]

Thereupon, “the entire community of infidels and polytheists in Kashmir was coerced into conversion to Islam at the point of the sword. This is one of the major achievements of Malik Kaji Chak,” adds the proud author ofBaharistan-i-Shahi [p. 117].

This horrifying action, of course, was ordered by the great Sufi saint.

I need not say anything else to define the nature of the Sufis. Let me, however, emphasize that, Kashmir is flaunted by Muslims as the best example of peaceful penetration of Islam in India—thanks to peaceful Sufis, of course. And this is the story of the most peaceful Sufis that came to India from the Muslim world.

The story of other greatest Sufis of India is no better. They came, with their followers, as vicious Jihadi warriors to slaughter the infidels:

1.         Moinuddin Chisti of Ajmer came with Muhammad Ghauri’s army, which treacherously defeated the humane and benevolent king Prithviraj Chauhan.

2.         Nizamuddin Auliya participated in a Jihad war alongside Nasriruddin Qibacha in Multan.

3.         Sheikh Shah Jalal, the great Sufi saint of Bangladesh, fought in a Jihadi war against Hindu king Ghor Govinda of Sylhet.

And all of these Sufi saints have claimed their role as decisive in winning those bloody wars. And such go the stories of most of the great Sufis—from India, to Africa, to the Balkan. (For more on the horrible activities of Sufis, consult my book, Islam Jihad, p. 115–133).

Source: http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/09/05/kashmir-propagation-of-islam-and-terror-of-the-sufis/

How to pray and fast in countries where the day or night is continuous

Dear Sir Ali Sina,

I am an ex-muslim from Bangladesh. some months ago i came to know about your site. I went through many articles of your site and those were really wonderful.

Now i really in need of your help. Recently i got involve in a debate with my friends who are “so-called” moderate muslims about fasting in polar region. As far as i know the inhabitants of polar region will not be able to fast or even detect the time of pilgrimage according to islam. But many islamists are coming up with solutions like these

http://www.imamreza.net/eng/imamreza.php?id=4110

www.islamqa.com/en/ref/5842

Now can you prove that this solutions are hoax and they contradict with quran and hadith? If u write some details in your site it will be a very good addition in your forum thread. Please help your me to win this debate,help to prove their claim wrong,i will be very grateful if you do this and it will be another defeat for islam.

Sincerely yours

Shafaet

Muslims love to fool themselves in any way possible to make Islam look rational.  This is one example of that.  The hadiths are clear about the time of prayer and fasting. These scholars agree that the time for salat should not change, irrespective of the length of the day. Whether the day is 15 minutes long or 23:45  hours  long, you can still fit five time prayers in them.  When days are short you say your prayer fast. Think of old Charlie Chaplin’s movies.    

However, when it comes to fasting these scholars say one can postpone his fasting for another time of the year if fastomg becomes too harsh. So, if Ramadan falls in summer, a Muslim living in north pole can postpone fasting for for winter when days are a few minutes long.

Another recommendation of these scholars is to follow the time of sunset and sunrise of a nearby country where day and night are distinguishable.  Is there any hadith backing this recommendation? They just made that up. 

They also say if days and nights are distinguishable then one has to fast during the day, no matter how long it may be, as long as it does not cause the believer death or health hazard, and eat drink and have intercourse during the night.  What if the night is only a few minutes long?   I suppose Muslims will go to bed with a sandwich in one hand and a drink in another and munch and drink fast while quickly having sex.  Meanwhile, they will keep an eye at the sky to see if light is coming out to stop eating and end their sex session, and jump into the shower for ablution for the fajr prayer.

Who said Islam is humorless? 

Regards 

Ali Sina

Source: http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/09/06/how-to-pray-and-fast-in-countries-where-the-day-or-night-is-continuous/

Ali Sina

A movement is on. Muslims, who have come to realize that Islam is not what it is believed be the majority, are not only leaving it but are also speaking out.?

How did Islam come to be what it is today?

What should the modern Muslims do?

Who are the terrorists and what are their goals?       

Who better to answer these questions than a man who once believed Islam to be a divine revelation and is now free to share his insights of the real Islam?

Faithfreedom International is a worldwide grassroots movement of ex-Muslims and those who are concerned about the rise of radical Islam. According to Ranking.com, the site faithfreedom.org is listed in between the top 30,000 to 40,000 Web sites! And according to Site Meter, FFI has had over 15 million visitors since 2005. It receives more than 20,000 visitors every day and almost 2 million page views every month. That is a phenomenal web site.

So who runs Faith Freedom Int'l?

Founded by Ali Sina, today this site is run by several ex-Muslim volunteers.

An Iranian, born to Muslim parents, Ali Sina saw the truth of Islam after reading the Quran. ?It was then that he realized why his country that was once a superpower had become a third world country, and how the same fate awaits the rest of the world.? He decided to sound the clarion and let the world know that mankind is in a great peril. What is at stake is the human civilization.

He started writing about his findings and published them on the Internet. More ex-Muslims joined and the trickle became a torrent. Now it is the ex-Muslims that pose a threat to Islam. This explosive site may tear down the tall wall of Islam and unite today’s hostile Muslims with the rest of mankind.

Ali Sina has debated with numerous prominent Islamic scholars, such as?the Grand Ayatollah Montazeri, Javed Ahmed Ghamidi, Maulana Ajmal Qadri, Edip Yusel, etc. and has shown the fallacies of Islam in all his debates.

Sina has never wavered from his goals, to bring to the world attention the threat of Islam and to help Muslims see the truth about their religion.? Thanks to?faithfreedom.org, and Sina’s book, Understanding Muhammad: A Psychobiography of Allah’s Prophet, thousands of Muslims have left Islam, have stopped seeing the non-Muslims as their enemies and have joined the rest of mankind as fellow humans.? Ali Sina believes he has created a cookie cutter that can lead millions of Muslims out of Islam, demolish this faith and end this hate in our own lifetime. ?All it is required, he says, is to spread the truth and Islam will melt like ice in the Arabian Desert.

So grab your favorite drink and make yourself comfortable, as we sit down and talk with the man who has started a silent revolution that if successful may change the course of history.

May I present Mr. Ali Sina.
ITF: First of all I would like to thank you for taking the time to speak to the viewers of the Infidel Task Force. It is quite an honor to have you here.

Sina: Thank you for inviting me.

ITF: Currently the world has 44 different ongoing conflicts with radical Islamic militants. What brought us to this point? Where will it lead to? And how do we stop them?

Sina: Conflict is not strange to Islam. Through fighting and violence Muslims resolve their differences. Do you believe that the Muslim god prescribes fighting to his believers?

Quran 2.216 - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But God knoweth, and ye know not.

Sinc 1492, when Ferdinand and Isabella completed the reconquista of Spain and forced the Muslims out of Granada the expansionist zeal of Muslims came to a halt. Muslims are required to make peace when they are weak and break their peace accords when they are strong. This is based on the example set by Muhammad in Hudaibiyah, where he, seeing the weakness of his army, signed a ten year peace treaty with the Meccans, only to break that treaty, by divine decree, two years later, when he had raided and looted other weaker citadels and had become powerful. To justify this treachery he made his Allah reveal the sura 9 entitled Bara’a (deliverance) and release him from his obligation to honor his treaty.

Quran. 9:3:And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage― that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (their treaty) obligations with the pagans.

Imam Suyuti, in Itqan Fi 'Ulum al- Qur'an (Certainty in the science of the Quran) wrote: The command to fight the infidels was delayed until the Muslims become strong, but when they were weak they were commanded to endure and be patient. [Sobhy as_Saleh, Mabaheth Fi 'Ulum al- Qur'an, Dar al-'Ilm Lel-Malayeen, Beirut , 1983, p. 269.]

The reason that after 500 years of relative calm Jihad is back is because Muslims, thanks to the oil and the well paying jobs in the West, are feeling strong and think it is time to flex their religious muscles again.

So there is the answer to your first question: “What brought us to this point?” Oil! Wealth! Quite contrary to what the liberal media wants to make us believe, the cause of Islamic terrorism is not poverty, but the opposite. Muslims have become rich, feel strong, and hence they are under religious obligation to start fighting.

What was the second question?

ITF: My second question is here will it lead to

Sina: That depends on how we respond to them. If we adopt a submissive peaceful posture vis-à-vis their aggression, of course they will be emboldened and we lose. We lose our freedom, our democracy, our civilization and everything humanity has achieved during these last few hundreds of years. Science will be enslaved by an obscurantist religion and the world will sink in the quagmire of Talibanization.

The historian John O’Neill, in a must read tome,The Holy Warriors, has shown that unlike the common misconception, the Dark Ages and the demise of the Classical Civilization did not begin with the invasion of the Vandals and the Goths, the so called barbarians, nor because of the spread of Christianity. The Dark Ages, the inquisition and the holy war, were caused by the Muslim invasion ofEurope. Human civilization has had one thousand years of stagnation because of Islam. If Islam is allowed to conquer the West, Dark Ages will set again. This time humanity may never recover.

This will not be the end of the story. Since Muslims know no other way to resolve their disagreements, except through fighting, in an eventual Islamic world everyone will be fighting with everyone else and there will be mass slaughters worldwide. With the world’s reserves of nuclear weapons in the hands of Muslims, you can imagine what will be the future of mankind.

Muslims will start killing each other because each considers others to be heretics. A Good example is what is happening in Gaza. Muslims in this tiny piece of land are in perpetual war with Israel. Meanwhile, they persecute the Christians and have splinted in dozens of groups, fighting among each other.

The main factions are al Fatah and al Hamas. They are busy killing one another. Then there are: Jaish al-Islam (affiliated with al-Qaida), Fatah al-Islam, Jaish al-Ummah, Jaish Allah, al-Takfir, Lion's Den of Jihad Fighters, Jaljalat (an Arabic term meaning "rolling thunder"), al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (responsible for shootings, suicide operations including female suicide bombing), Holy Jihad Brigades (responsible for the August 2006 kidnappings of Fox News reporter Steve Centanni and cameraman Olaf Whig in the Gaza Strip), Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades (The militant wing of Hamas), ?Palestine Islamic Jihad, Al-Quds Brigades (the militant wing of Palestinian Islamic Jihad), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (a Marxist-rooted revolutionary group), Palestine Liberation Front (responsible for hijacking the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro on Oct. 7, 1985, and killing a wheelchair bound elderly Jewish American, Leon Klinghoffer, and throwing is body and his wheelchair overboard), Abu Ali Mustapha Brigades (the military wing of the Marxist-secular Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine), Popular Resistance Committees (founded by Hezbollah of Lebanon, is an umbrella organization for militants coming from Fatah and joining forces with Hamas-linked groups).

There are many more, and this is just in Gaza. There are thousands of groups in the entire Muslim world that are hostile to each other, fighting and killing one another and calling each other kafir, unislamic and heretic. The only thing that units them is their hatred of non-Muslims and particularly the Jews.

If Islam conquers the world, this is where we are heading – constant war and the assured destruction of mankind.

Now, this may come as a surprise, but fratricide between Muslims is by design. It is as if Muhammad wanted to spread hatred and disunity among his followers and make them kill one another. Muslims will jump to differ and will quote the Quran 3:103 where Muhammad exhorts his followers: "And hold fast, all of you together, to the rope of Allah and be not divided."?However, he laid the foundation for the disunity of his followers. Here is how:

Imam Abu Dawood quoted a Hadith concerning the division of the Muslims into seventy-three sects.

Mu'awiyah ibn Abi Sufyan said, The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) stood among us and said': 'Beware! The People of the Book before (you) were split up into 72 sects, and this community will be split up into 73, seventy-two of them will go to Hell and one of them will go to Paradise.' [Sunan Abu Dawood, 3/4580, English edn):

This hadith is reported also by others. So Muslims believe it is sahih (authentic). The implication is clear. It follows that Muslims will split into many sects and since all but one are false the followers of all but one are heretics and will go to hell.? How the righteous Muslims should treat the heretics? That too is prescribed. Heretics must be killed. Muhammad said those who change the religion or try to reform it and introduce innovation should be killed.

Now, the question is which one of these 73 sects is the right one? Naturally, everyone believes they are the ones. So if every Muslim believes to be right and other Muslims are heretics, doesn’t it follow that Muslims are required to fight with each other?

The truth is that Islam is not divided into 73 sects but into thousands of sects.

I am a rationalist. I do not believe in the supernatural. But for the sake of argument, let us assume Satan is real and hell bent to destroy mankind. What better way could he devise than inventing a religion like Islam and making people kill one another to the last man? Islam is the perfect recipe to end humanity.

ITF: And, how do we stop them?

Sina:

With truth! Islam is a lie. The antidote to lie is truth. We can stop Islam. This is a lot easier than people think. All we have to do is expose its fallacies and Muslims will walk away from it. No one wants to believe in a lie. Once we show them that Muhammad was a psychopath cult leader and that all his claims are bogus, Islam will become a dead religion in no time. I believe in the power of truth. Tell the truth and Islam will be destroyed in our own lifetime.

ITF: Will it not offend their sensitivity?

Sina: To hell with their sensitivity! Tell the truth and save their lives.

ITF: Canada and America both have seen a rise in domestic terror cells. Jamat ul-Fuqra, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, just to name two! They operate openly and with peaceful identities. What are they in reality and why are the governments reluctant to approach them?

Sina: All Muslim groups are terrorists. This does not mean every Muslim is a terrorist. But if someone launches an Islamic group to advance Islam, under any pretext, whether peaceful of not, be careful of his intentions. Muslims fight for the same cause – the domination of Islam and the overthrow of all non Muslim governments. Their modus operandi is different. Some opt direct fighting and others covert fighting.

Last February, a Pakistani American who started a Muslim TV channel in the US to counter negative portrayal of Islam after the 9/11 terror attacks, beheaded his estranged wife in a very Islamic fashion. This man was clean shaven who wore suit and tie and was looking quite westernized and modernized.

A Muslim is a Muslim is a Muslim. Don’t let them confuse you with charades like “Islam is not a monolithic religion,” or “honor killing is cultural,” and other nonsense. A peaceful Muslim is a contradiction in terms. It is an oxymoron. Have you seen a hot ice? There is less chance to find a peaceful Muslim. The very fact that they keep reminding us that Islam is a religion of peace is because it is not. Why the followers of other religions don’t feel such an urge to constantly tell others their religion means peace? The proof of perfume is in its smell, not because it’s written on its label.

Now, don’t get me wrong. I am not saying all Muslims are violent and terrorists. There are many good people who call themselves Muslims. They are the majority. But they are good to the extent that they diverge from Islam. These same good people can turn dangerous when they remember they are Muslims.

Jihad stands on two feet. One is terror and the other is deception or taqiyyah. Both are essential for the advancement of Islam. Which foot you put forward depends on the situation. When Muslims are weak, taqiyyah is the best approach and when they are strong, ro’b (terror) is prescribed.  This is sunnah, the example set by Muhammad. He used both terror and deception to advance his cause. Muhammad said war is deception and al nasro fil ro’b (victory is in terror). He bragged, “I have been made victorious with terror”

There is a debate going on among Muslims about whether Islam is strong enough to engage in warfare or not enough strong and therefore Muslims should work their way through deception. Of course, debates in Islam are always bloody, but nonetheless we have to recognize that this is a genuine debate, a la Musulman.

 A few years ago, Dr. Mahathir who was the prime minister of Malaysia hosted the summit of Organization of Islamic Conference, where leaders of all 57 Islamic countries attended. In his speech, addressing all Muslims, he lamented that Islam has been associated with terrorism. He spoke of the past glory of Islam and after complaining that Muslims are now oppressed and humiliated. He encouraged them to put aside the fight, advance in science and technology and acquire wealth. And then do what? Build hospitals? Found Universities? Advance human civilization?? Improve Muslims’ life? Nope! Then he suggested that uslims should buy guns and rockets, bombs and warplanes, tanks and warships, destroy their enemies, subdue other nations, and make them kneel again in front of Muslims, as they did during Islam’s golden age.?

Dr. Mahathir was hailed as a moderate Muslim and by all accounts he is. So what is the difference between a moderate Muslim and a terrorist Muslim? The difference is that the latter thinks Muslims are strong enough and the time for Jihad has come while the former believes Muslims are still too weak for that.  In essence, Muslims cannot disagree with the concept of Jihad because they would be disagreeing with the Quran. Jihad is a fundamental principle of Islam.

Jamat ul-Fuqra and Hizb-ut-Tahrir have the same goal that al Qaida has: Domination of Islam. The difference is in how they want to achieve this goal. One group wants to use terror now and the other prefers deception for now until Muslims are more powerful.

ITF: Lets talk a bit about Shariah Law. Why do some Western countries allow Sharia Law to be implemented instead of telling Muslims they must live according to the laws already in place? I’m speaking of the case in point in the UK.

Sina: Corruption my dear! Corruption of your politicians!? Politicians want the votes of Muslims and they will sell their mother for it. A good example is the new scandal surrounding the release of the Lockerbie bomber, Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al Megrahi that involves the UK Prime Minister Brown.

The government of Britain made a mockery of justice and the memory of 300 people perished in that bombing when they released the terrorist Megrahi, to make a lucrative deal with?Libya.? This may surprise the British, but it does not surprise me. I am an Iranian. The British governments, have always looked the other way and sacrificed the human rights in Iran to make lucrative deals with the dictators of that county, and turned against them when those deals went elsewhere. In 1953 the British conspired to oust the democratic prime minister of Iran, Dr. Mossadeq, and reinstated the inexperienced and easily controllable Mohammad Reza Shah. Twenty six years later they turned against him and backed Khomeini and the tyrannical mullahs, when the Shah matured and tried to demonstrate his independence. Then for thirty years they supported one of the most brutal regimes in the world, knowing everything about the tortures, rapes in prisons, executions and all human rights abuses that their thuggish business partners were committing in?Iran. None of that mattered to the consecutive British governments. As long as the lucrative deals were coming, they turned a blind eye to all human rights abuses. But now that Russia and China have managed to win the mullahs to their side and the Brits are left in the cold, the British government is against the Islamic regime.

Shameless politicians will sell their wife, daughter and mother, not just their humanity and their country, in order to stay in power. Muslims take full advantage of that to strengthen their foothold in western countries. You will be defeated because your politicians are traitors.? It is time for a new generation of politicians to rise – politicians who put their country first, defend its laws, its constitution, its democratic values and its heritage. But this new breed of politicians will only rise when people support them. This consciousness must arise from the grassroots. For decades the western mind has been contaminated with leftist propaganda and now we are seeing the result. Islamism is expanding and the western civilization is disintegrating.

There is one man in Europe who has stood for Europe. He is Geert Wilder. Behold how the European leftist media vilifies him and equates him to Hitler. Remember how the unforgettable Oriana Fallaci, who stood for the west and its Judeo-Christian heritage, was treated by the courts in her own country, Italy.

You have a disease within your countries. It is called liberalism. It produces a toxin known as political correctness, and a venom called multiculturalism that poison your entire society. This disease affects your immune system and makes you vulnerable to your external and internal enemies. It has infected all democratic countries, from India to Europe and now it has spread to the US, affecting its very heart.

If you want to defend your country from Islamization, you have to flush out your system from liberalism. You need to take the power away from those who are selling out your country and vote for patriotic servants of the people who are not afraid to call a spade a spade and do not fear to stand up against Muslims and their effort to Islamize your country.

The Sharia must be outlawed not just because it is anti constitutional, but also anti American and anti human. The Sharia is an insult to humanity - an assault to women. Every bit of it is a violation of human rights.

Construction of mosques must be banned. Mosques are places where Muslims are indoctrinated to hate their fellow non-Muslim citizens. Banning the construction of mosques is in conformity with Islam. Muslims do not allow building Hindu temples, churches or any other non Muslim house of worship in their Islamic countries.

Why should we allow a religion to grow in our midst when we know that if they come to power they will take our freedom away from us?

Then you have to start a campaign to inform people about Islam and to rescue those trapped in this gigantic web of deception. I am not saying that governments should do this, but they should not stand in the way of those who want to use their right to free speech and threaten them with penalties.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/36272-protesters-threaten-bloodshed-over-hindu-temple

Once Muslims leave Islam they can be as trustworthy and patriotic as anyone else. As long as they are Muslims you have to watch their every move with suspicion. Muslims’ loyalty is not to their country, but to Islam. They have a duty to destroy the non-Muslim systems and establish the caliphate. The injunction comes from the Quran 3:28. Muslims are asked not to accept the unbelievers as awlyia (guardians, rulers), but rather guard themselves from them. In another verse, 4:141 Muhammad said, “Allah will not allow the disbelievers to have an authority over the believers.” Muslims oath of allegiance to the non-Muslim countries is bogus. It is another deception. Don’t believe my words. Lo and behold with your own senses.

Any country ruled by any law other than the Sharia is dar al kufr (the land of disbelief) and consequently eligible to be designated as dar al harb, (the land of war). It does not matter whether the majority of its citizens are Muslims or not and whether the rulers are Muslims or not. The laws of the land must be Sharia law. Only a country ruled strictly by the Sharia law is dar al Islam (the land of Islam) and should remain amn (safe) from Muslims’ raids. No country is strictly ruled by the Sharia law today, not even Saudi Arabia or Iran. The Afghanistan under the Taliban was the only ideal model.

Dar al kufr does not automatically become dar al harb. The rulers must be given the option to submit to Muslims or pay the protection fee. In that case it will be classified as dar al adl (land of justice). But if they refuse to submit to Muslims and pay the jizya, the land becomes dar al harb and it is incumbent on every Muslim to wage war against it in every way possible within his power and topple that regime.

Here you can see what really Muslims mean by justice. According to Islam, justice is done only when the non-Muslims are subjugated and all the lands are restored to Allah and his chosen ones, the true Muslims. Justice in Islam does not mean equality of all men, but the supremacy of Allah and those who believe in him over the non believers. This is the divine justice, not the kind of justice that you and I understand.

The problem is that the non-Muslims do not know this. They do not know that they are under attack or when Muslims use words like justice, peace, tolerance what they mean. They are blinded by political correctness and rendered unconscious by multiculturalism. They will wake up from this coma when it is too late. In some European countries, like in UK and France, it may already be too late. Maybe it is their karma.

ITF: Shariah law is contradictory to our Democratic governments, and from what we know, the majority of Muslim women do not want the introduction of Shariah law within Canada and the US. Are these the major stumbling blocks that are currently preventing Muslims from implementing Shariah Law here?

Sina: Yes that is very much true. Muslim women know that under Sharia law they will lose their rights as humans. The truth is that most Muslims do not want to live under Sharia. They are caught in a tug of war, a cognitive dissonance, between their faith and how they really want to live. However, these people can be easily manipulated by the extremists and turn fully fledged Islamists and even terrorists. Faith is a dangerous thing. It makes you do things against your own conscience and interest. If you want to stop the Sharia law in the west you have to attack Islam and make Muslims realize that it is a lie.

ITF: Will the US court system provide, in any way, an entrance to implementation of Shariah Law?

Sina: The Sharia is unconstitutional. So how the courts could recognize it?? This is something that unscrupulous politicians may do. It is much easier to manipulate corrupt politicians with the promise of massive Muslim votes than bribe a judge.  A party that thinks the Constitution is only a piece of paper and has put in office a president who is constitutionally ineligible, is likely to approve the Sharia law as well.? Right now America has a very corrupt government that is paving the road for the Islamization of this country.

ITF: It seems if there is going to be any change with Islam, it will be with the Muslim women. At least that is what we have seen in the past few years. Do you think Muslim women would reject Islam if they were allowed the freedom to do so?

Sina: Yes I agree that the real change will be made by Muslim women. This is quite obvious by watching the videos coming out of Iran. Women are at the forefront of the demonstrations. They have nothing to lose and are ready to give their lives for their freedom.? In the west you see courageous women, like Nonie Darish, Wafa Sultan and Ayan Hisi Ali who are at the line of fire in our battle against Islmization of the west.

?In Egypt there is this amazing woman, Nagla Al-Imam, (pictured here)?a graduate from Al Azhar University and an expert in the Sharia law who has openly converted to Christianity and has said she will not leave her country. http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/08/25/if-you-convert-you-die/? Now, this is courage. May her God keep her save in that land filled with wolves! This shows that you cannot keep a woman enslaved after she is educated. The Taliban know that too. That is why they destroy the girl’s schools and kill their teachers.

ITF: Just about every conscious human in the free world knows about Islamic suicide bombers, train bombers, and night club bombers. Everyone knows that Muslims flying large commercial planes crashed into the World Trade Center buildings and the Pentagon on 9/11. Those are the actions of the obvious terrorist side of Islam. Yet, all the world hears is the plea from Muslims to understand that Islam is a religion of peace and love. If that is so, does this mean that Islamists who are terrorists use a Quran that is different from the "peaceful" Muslim's Quran?

Sina:
Yes that is true. There are two different Qurans. One is written and the other is imagined. The terrorists and the hate spewing mullahs read the written Quran. There are two dozens of sanitized versions of this Quran translated into English and despite the efforts of the translators, it still sounds gory. The other Quran exists in the imagination of the masses of Muslims who have never read the written Quran and attribute everything good that they can think of to it.

It is my belief that once these Muslims learn what is in the written Quran, their faith will be shattered and they will leave Islam. This may take some time. The believer often goes through a period of denial, then through the stages of shock, guilt, confusion, depression and anger until they reach the citadel of enlightenment and enter therein as apostates.

ITF:

Do you think it's possible to modernize Islam so that it can become compatible with the modern world?        

Sina:

No. There can be no change in Islam. Any honest Muslim will tell you that. That is what Muhammad has warned against in many parts of the Quran.
 
 (Quran .2:85) Do you, then, believe in some parts of the divine writ and deny the truth of other parts? What, then, could be the reward of those among you who do such things but ignominy in the life of this world? And, on the Day of Resurrection, they will be consigned to most grievous suffering. For God is not unmindful of what you do.
 
 (Quran 6:114) Am I, then, to look unto anyone but God for judgment [as to what is right and wrong], when it is He who has bestowed upon you from on high this divine writ, clearly spelling out the truth?

For more discussion on why Islam cannot be reformed read my article, The Illusion of Reforming Islam.

There are individuals in the west that claim to be moderate Muslims and even against the Sharia. People must not fall for this charade. Sharia is Islam. You cannot be a Muslim and be against the Sharia. It is like saying I am a Christian but against the Bible. By seeing these self proclaimed moderate Muslims, I can understand the anger that Jesus felt against those hypocrites whom he called addressed, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth.

Muhammad was a thief, a pedophile a mass murderer, a rapist, a sadist torturer, and a conman charlatan. You either believe in him or you don’t. It is hypocritical to say, I am a follower of Muhammad, but not wicked enough to emulate him, and in fact I am such a nice person that I oppose him.

I can understand the self proclaimed moderate Muslims in Islamic countries and I have utmost respect for them. This is the only way they can remain alive. But those in the west pull wool over the eyes of the unwary non-Muslims, making them believe Islam has a moderate side too, which is not true.

Many Muslims know nothing about Islam. They are moderate and good citizens. They can be excused. But those who appear in televisions and radios, give interviews and write articles, are not ignorant. So what is their agenda? I don’t know. I just don’t like deception. Truth must be said. And the truth is that Islam is evil and Muhammad was a cult leader.

When Nazis ruled over? Germany, many Germans were supporting them. Not all those Germans were evil. Most of them were ignorant. They did not know the truth about Nazis and Hitler. So you can forgive them. The same can be said about millions of Americans who voted for and still support Obama. They don’t know him. But what would you say of a person who knows the truth about Hitler, disagrees with him and calls himself “a moderate Nazi?” Likewise, there is something fishy, something does not add up with the claim of the self proclaimed moderate Muslims.

There is no such thing as moderate or peaceful Islam. Muslims are of two kinds. They are either terrorist Muslims or ignorant Muslims. The ignorant Muslims are, thanks heaven, the majority. Once they learn the truth about the real Islam they will leave it.

The cure for ignorance is knowledge. What is the cure for hypocrisy?

We want Muslims to leave Islam. We don’t want them to modernize it or reform it. That is not possible and we would be fooling ourselves into complacency, lowering our guards and making ourselves vulnerable to Islamic take over through deception. You should never trust a rattle snake as a pet. Likewise, Islam should not be trusted. It cannot change and those who try to make you think otherwise are either delusional and cannot cut their umbilical cord from Islam, or have an agenda.

ITF: Do you think radical Islam will proliferate under the new Obama administration?

Sina: Radical Islam and Islam are the same. Islam is radical.

The answer to your question is yes. Obama is pulling wool over the eyes of Americans by acting as an apologist for Islam. In his latest message for Ramazan, he said, “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”

This is a pack of lies. Islamic justice is injustice to non-believers, as we saw earlier.

Islam has never been for progress. All the knowledge is deemed to exist in the Quran and everything that is not in the Quran is either taghooti (ungodly/satanic), or redundant. If Islam is for progress, why the Islamic countries are so backward?? Shouldn’t they be at least a little more advanced than kafir countries that do not practice Islam at all?

Tolerance in Islam has to be purchased with jizya. You have to pay a protection fee to Muslims so they leave you alone. This is no different from the kind of tolerance the Mafia had towards businesses inChicago, during their heyday.

Also if you are not a Muslim, Islam does not recognize your dignity or even rights as a human being. If you are a Muslim, that is even worse because you will be killed if you choose to exercise your freedom of belief which is the basis of human dignity.

What is shocking is that Obama administration has actually endorsed Jihad. Here are Obama’s counter-terrorism advisor John Brennan's words:

"Nor does President Obama see this challenge as a fight against `jihadists.'?Describing terrorists in this way--using a legitimate term, `jihad,' meaning to purify oneself or to wage a holy struggle for a moral goal--risks giving?these murderers the religious legitimacy they desperately seek but in no way?deserve.”

It is not only unconscionable for aUS government to define a religious concept and act as an apologist for it, it is shameful to lie and deceive the public. Now this administration is saying that jihad is legitimate and recognizes its goal as moral? The goal of jihad is to conquer the word with raids/terrorism. The 9/11 was jihad. Is this a moral goal?

Jihad has never stood for self purification. This lie was probably propagated by the Sufis who like today’s reformers, foolishly tried to make Islam a bit more peaceful. They claimed that after Muhammad returned from his last raid on Tabuk, he told his followers ‘We have returned from Jihad Asghar to Jihad Akbar’ which means self purification.

Ibn Taimiyyah (1263 – 1328) one of the greatest Muslim scholars of all times clarified: “There is a Hadith related by a group of people which states that the Prophet (s.a.w) said after the battle of Tabuk: ‘We have returned from Jihad Asghar to Jihad Akbar’. This hadith has no source, nobody whomsoever in the field of Islamic knowledge has narrated it. Jihad against the disbelievers is the most noble of actions, and moreover it is the most important action for the sake of mankind.” [Refer: Al Furqan baina Auliyair Rahman wa Auliyaisy Shaitaan, matter 44-45].?

Another hadith narrates: A man asked the prophet: “..and what is Jihad?” He replied: “You fight against the disbelievers when you meet them.” He asked again: “What kind of Jihad is the highest?” He replied: “The person who is killed whilst spilling the last of his blood.” [Narrated by Ahmad in his Musnad 4/114 - Hadith sahih. Al Haithami states: “Narrators upheld it.” Majmauz Zawaid 1/59].

More on this subject here:

Apart from deceiving the Americans, Obama is doing everything to weaken the defense of America against its enemies, such as closing the?Guantanamo?Bay and prosecuting the CIA agents for waterboarding the terrorists to extract information that saved American lives.The terrorists will not attack now. Instead they will build their cells and will do incalculable damage at a later date.?

Obama’s destruction of the economy will be catastrophic, but the harm that he is doing to the homeland security is equally calamitous.

Americans are seeing the danger that this snake oil salesman is posing to their country. They are participating in tea party rallies, attending town hall meetings and are taking their country back. They are waking up (although not soon enough). Obama has been a catastrophe for?America, but Americans are patriotic and they will not let this Marxist, Saul Alinsky and Bill Ayer disciple community organizer, take their country to dogs.

ITF: We want to wish you the best with your book, Understanding Muhammad. Do you feel that if people understood what kind of person Muhammad really was, that they would have a better understanding of Islam

http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/05/24/understanding-muhammad/

Sina: Absolutely! To understand Islam and hence Muslims, it is imperative to understand Muhammad. Islam is Muhammadanism. Muslims follow and emulate their prophet. Once you know Muhammad and his psychology, you’ll find Muslims are very predictable. As a matter of fact the key to destroy Islam is to understand Muhammad.

My book is unique in the sense that it probes into the mind of Muhammad and unravels his psychological makeup. There are thousands of short stories about Muhammad narrated by his wives and companions. Collectively, they reveal a very clear picture of him. Unlike Jesus, Moses and other religious figures of the past, whose lives are shrouded in myths and legends, Muhammad’s life-story is recorded in detail. I analyzed him under the light of the modern psychology and I have shown that he suffered from a series of disorders and that the entire phenomenon known as Islam is a mental case. Once you read the book, you’ll realize that Islam is an overgrown cult, no different from that of Jim Jones, David Koresh or Charles Manson. The difference is that Muhammad came in a time and place where there was no central power and no one to stop him.

There are many books that show the evilness of Islam. All you have to do is read the Quran, the hadith and the sira, the biography of Muhammad, and you will see that Islam is very evil. But the question remains: How could something so evil becomes the second largest religion in the world and how could a man so depraved influence so many? Something is amiss. If Islam is so bad why can’t a billion people see it? Are we to suppose that there are no intelligent people among a billion Muslims? How could so many people, for so many generations, fail to see the obvious

This is an important question, which weighs on Muslims, validates their faith and prevents them from questioning it. You have to explain this phenomenon if you want to wean them from Islam.

There is a mystery surrounding Muhammad. It is thanks to this mystery that Islam has survived so long. Understanding Muhammad demystifies him. Once Muhammad is demystified and the nakedness of the emperor becomes widely known, no one will believe in him. When the mystic is gone Islam will be gone.

All the Muslims who have read my book have left Islam. Those who did not leave did not read the book. How do I know that? They tell me. They write to say they read 10, 20 or 30 pages and the book is full of garbage and that they are not going to waste their time reading it. The book is not garbage, but they are afraid to read it because they see the effect that it has on them and they are terrified at the thought of doubting Islam. The fear of hell has paralyzed the Muslims’ mind.

I am confident that the spread of truth about will end Islam. Understanding Muhammad is being translated in a few other languages. It will be available for free download in the languages spoken by Muslims. Many Muslims will leave Islam after reading it and their exodus will start an avalanche which will precipitate the complete fall of Islam.

ITF: On behalf of the Infidel Task Force, I wish to thank you for taking the time to chat with us and giving us your point of view on Shariah Law, Radical Islam and what to do about the ongoing threat.

Thank You very Much.

Sina: Thank you. It was my pleasure

Source: http://infideltaskforce.webs.com/itfinterviews.htm?

Correspondence With A Muslim

I received an email  some time ago from a Muslim responding in general to my articles and this was my answer to him. There are some items in his note that make no sense to me and the purpose of the letter in the beginning is not clear to me.   Nevertheless, it will give you some idea of the thinking of the person as well as my responses.

He wrote: CHRISTIAN SAHADA FORMULA Acknowledging Muhammad SAW as the Messenger of God is a very sensitive case for Christians. And, of course, acknowledging that Jesus as the Son of God is a very sensitive case for Muslims. If Christians want to acknowledge that Muhammad SAW is the Messenger of God, then they want to be convinced about it, first.

1. Christian Sahada.

I am launching this Christian Sahada: As you know, Islam uses Sahada to clarify that someone has already accepted Islam. It sounds in English as: I acknowledge that there is no god but God. And I acknowledge that Muhammad is the Messenger of God.

By vowing this, a person legally, formally, officially, embraces Islam, and becomes Muslim. Sahada is the first step and the 1st rite that one must go thru before he becomes a complete Muslim. Thus, what is the Christian Sahada? Sound like: "I declare that Jesus is son of God, and Paul is the Primary Apostle"? Little no big No. Not al all! Here I am launching you the Christian Sahada, which consists of two statements.

Christian Sahada Statement I:

All Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God. They are conditioned by the Christian life to get used to think and to react as if Jesus was son of God. All Christian leaders claim that the sonship of Jesus is clearly written in Holy Bible, NT-OT. Even, according to Bible, Jesus himself claims that he is the son of God.

The question is: how trustworthy the Bible (NT-OT) is? Your society says: that trustworthy!! How convincing!

Understand this with all your heart and soul:

First there is Judaism, and Judaic community. To that community, God sends down Jesus. The coming of Jesus is not as smooth as God plans. The coming of Jesus breaks the Judaic community in 2: those who believe that Jesus is sent by Above, and those who deny Jesus. Jesus himself in his life detects that Judaic priests corrupt all the Scriptures; therefore God sends Jesus down to fix the Scriptures. After years of Jesus life, Judaic people crucify Jesus. And still Jesus can't fix the Scriptures even after the day of his crucifixion. Even though the coming of Jesus creates new religion, Christianity, but the Judaism still lives on with its corrupted Scriptures, according to what Jesus detects. What you have to learn and analyse in here? 

My response: You are forgetting and omitting so much in your assertions.  You are also falsely describing them.  You are also diverting attention from one issue to another one.

First, Christians believe that Jesus is the Son of God because there is evidence for it, not because they have been conditioned that way.   If you think only in terms of conditioning, how many Muslims would flee the Muslim culture if they were free to do so?   Many are there not because of serious belief and evidence, but because of conditioning and the culture.

Your second comment about “society says that the Bible is trustworthy.”  I am afraid that you do not understand Western society.  There are lots of pagans in America who would reject your comment. We have atheists and very liberal people who reject the Bible.

Your comment “the coming of Jesus is not as smooth as God plans” is based on a misunderstanding of the Bible.   I don’t think you have really read the Bible.  Your comments seem like normal Muslim propaganda.  If you would read Isaiah 53 you would know the death of the Messiah was prophesied 800 years before the coming of the Messiah.  So it can’t be a surprise to God. That was a part of his plan.

He wrote: You said, Jesus himself in his life detects that Judaic priests corrupt all the Scriptures; therefore God sends Jesus down to fix the Scriptures.”

My response: I don’t think you have read my statements correctly.   I would never affirm that the priests, nor the Pharisees, nor Jews in general ever corrupted the Scriptures.  Neither would I have stated that “God sends Jesus down to fix the Scriptures.”    I do not know which article you have referred to in this statement for it seems  way out of my belief system.

Again, you have a lack of understanding on the issue.  The Scriptures were not corrupt.  Jesus did not say they were corrupt.  He declared that they testified concerning Him.   The Dead Sea Scrolls turned up a complete scroll of Isaiah, for example, that is dated 100 BC and it is the same as the later scrolls.  Jesus’ charge against the Jews was that their oral traditions of interpretations were man made.

The Hebrew Scriptures have not changed.  It is a phony charge to claim that they have and you should be honest enough to acknowledge that.   The idea that the Bible was corrupted arose in Islam after Muslim scholars could not find Mohammed prophesied in the Scriptures.

Moreover, Jesus did not come to “correct the Scriptures” as you claim.  He came to die, establish a New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:31), and reveal the real nature of God’s love.

In an article "The Charge of Distortion of Jewish and Christian Scriptures" by Abdullah Saeed [Muslim World; Fall 2002, Vol. 92, Issue 3/4, p. 419], he wrote,
 
 “Since the "authorized" scriptures of Jews and Christians remain very much today as they existed at the time of the Prophet, it is difficult to argue that the Qur'anic references to Tawrat and Injil were only to the "pure" Tawrat and Injil as existed at the time of Moses and Jesus, respectively. If the texts have remained more or less as they were in the seventh century CE, the reverence the Qur'an has shown them at the time should be retained even today. Many interpreters of the Qur'an, from Tabari to Razi to Ibn Taymiyya and even Qutb, appear to be inclined to share this view. The wholesale dismissive attitude held by many Muslims in the modern period towards the scriptures of Judaism and Christianity do not seem have the support of either the Qur'an or the major figures of tafsir.”

He wrote: First, sending Jesus down to Judaic community and that Jesus detects that Scriptures are all corrupted -by Judaic priests / agents- means that God and Jesus himself admit, acknowledge that Israel is all depraved! Jesus finds Scriptures corrupted! It means, Israel modifies, twists and tortures Scriptures. If you believe in Jesus, then you got to believe in what Jesus detects: the corruption. Further more: the depravity of Israel.

My response: Your logic is twisted.  Because some Jews rejected Jesus that makes them depraved?  By the same reason, Muslims who reject Jesus as the Son of God are depraved.  Mohammed rejected Jesus as the Son of God and therefore he was depraved.  Is that the kind of logic you want?  What about all the people in Mecca who rejected Mohammed?  That makes him depraved?   How did Mohammed deal with the Meccans?  He returned with a force of warriors and forced himself on the city.

He wrote: Secondly, the community of Judaic breaks in 2: half denies Jesus, another acknowledges Jesus. How could this be? I mean, if indeed the coming of Jesus is already written, foretold, forecast in Scriptures, why all the priests and all Judaic community refuse Jesus? Isn't that mean that in Scriptures, there is never a single line that foretells that someone by the name Jesus is coming? In this case, Christians stress that Israel erase the line foretelling the coming of Jesus. But Judaic community stress that the followers of Jesus make this up. The question is: who is right? The followers of Jesus, or Judaic people who deny Jesus? Let me answer this: both are mistaken. The problem lies in: the depravity of Israel. Once the Israel is depraved, then forever all products / materials brought, kept by them are all questioned and even dangerous. Further: Christians accuse that Judaism is false. Jews accuse that Christian is false. Which one is right? As you know, both Christian and Judaism are born in the same cradle, in the same quality of people. Answer is: both are false! Case closed!

My Response: You have a conspiracy theory about Jews and Christians that is simply off the wall. No Christian has ever said that the Jews erased a line of Scripture.  There are many prophecies in the Old Testament about the coming Messiah.  He is not named specifically, but he is named in terms of character, “his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”  Isaiah 9:6.    Jesus claimed to be all of this.    If you would read the New Testament you would see all of this.

You are wrong in your commentary.  You do not separate out the Old Testament Scriptures from the Oral tradition that was built up by the Pharisees and others.  Jesus himself declared the Old Testament Scriptures truthful.  Do you want to call Jesus a liar?  He condemned the Oral tradition but He said search the scriptures for they testify of me.  Judaism was true as far as it went, but there were those Jews who did not acknowledge Him as Messiah. How could Jesus claim the Scripture testified to Him if they were corrupted?  Remember the first Christians were Jewish believers who accepted Him as Messiah and Savior. Remember also that the apostles quoted the Old Testament many times in a similar fashion that Jesus did.

He wrote: Third, in his life, Jesus in a sermon on a hill to Israel, states this: Israel! Your forefathers murdered all (ancient) prophets. And you! If you are not those murderers, so you are the descendants of those murderers...What is that mean? Jesus himself acknowledges that Israel is depraved. The sermon of Jesus is bottom-lining some fact for the whole world that Israel is not a subject to believe in. I mean, if you believe in Jesus, so you got to believe that (a) Israel is depraved. That depraved so all ancient prophets are murdered by them, and their books are corrupted by them. (b) All materials brought by them are not subject to believe in. (c) further more: Jesus wants you to be careful, even to feel suspicion on Israel. If what I write you this makes you pissed-off (because in Christian life, Israel is positioned as the honour congregation), one thing you have to remember: what Jesus warns you on a hill one day? Jesus gives you no reason to extol Israel.     

My Response:  What kind of reasoning is this?  Because some prophets were killed all the rest are to be regarded as depraved?  If we apply the same reasoning to Muslim history we can conclude the same.  For example, when Muslims invaded India 300,000 Indian men were slaughtered because they did not know what to do with prisoners.  Over 60 million Christians were slain in the conquest of Christian North Africa, 80 million Hindus were slain in the invasion of India, 10 million Buddhists were killed along the silk route, in Africa over 120 million have died due to Jihad,  and  this means about 270 million people were killed in the last 1400 years and is still going on.  Now given your logic, Muslims are depraved, all Muslim materials are false, and we should be suspicious of all Muslims.  Therefore Muslims give us no reason to be respected.   Muslims are always depraved.   Is this your logic?  Go here for the stats.

He wrote: Fourth, if you insist that Israel is not depraved, or there is nothing happens in the way of heaven, then there ain't got to be Judaism and Christian side by side under the sky! If Judaic community / Israel are honest, then the coming of Jesus would be the ending days for Judaism. The fact differs. They keep the Judaism and all Judaic practices alive as if Jesus was telling lies. I want you to answer this: is it that Jesus who tells lies, or Jews who hide the truth? If you can't answer that (and of course -and I believe- you can't answer that), at least you know the problem and the situation, the background. There is one major bottom-line Jesus gives you: Jesus himself never trusts Israel / Judaic anymore! And if Jesus never trusts Judaic people, so why do you believe in them? Jesus is the best example for you, in this case.

My Response: I would suggest that you get better information on this issue by reading the book of Romans, chapter 9-11, “I say then, Did God cast off his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.   God did not cast off his people which he foreknew.” (Rom. 11:1-2)  Your conclusion at the end of your paragraph raises the same kind of question as above. First, to say that Jesus never trusts Jews is an error. Jesus loves not only the Jews, but He also loves you.  Why should one hold grudges against a people for what their fathers did?  This is one of the problems of the Muslim community: there is no forgiveness, only revenge.   Jesus taught forgiveness, even on the Cross when he was crucified he prayed, “Father, forgive them....”  If Muslims would so this, there would be no blood revenge.

Can you prove that Jesus lied? What is the evidence? What about the fact that Mohammed indicated one could lie and deceive others for purposes of war, and killing?

Note the following:  Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:  Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab)." The Prophet said, "You may say it." ... (Sahih al-Bukhari 5.369)

He wrote: Fifth, not long time after Jesus' sermon that stresses the depravity of Israel, Jesus is captured, arrested, tortured, crucified and murdered on a cross as if Jesus was a crime. All what Jesus warns, happens to himself. It means, the sermon of Jesus affects nothing to Israel. There is nothing to do for anyone -even Jesus- to change the morality of Israel. You all Christians, instead of understanding that the crucifixion of Jesus is the clear sign that Israel (and all Israel materials) is not subject to believe in, believe that the crucifixion is a sign of the advent of new religion and new salvation. How come? How pity? How ironic! What kind of religion that is in the cradle of the l.i.a.r.s? Of the depraved? You all Christians must see the Jesus crucifixion as the summit of the depravity of Israel. Not as the rising of new religion. The depravity of Israel that causes Jesus crucified gives a birth to a new religion?

My Response: You have made sweeping statements that are incorrect.   First, God foretold what would happen to the Messiah, Isaiah 53 as an example.  Second, thousands of Jews believed the Gospel, the Good news about the resurrection and they carried the message of hope and forgiveness to other Jews scattered in various parts of the Roman Empire, and that message spilled over to the non-Jews, the Gentiles.  God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself.  The incorporation of the Gentiles was also foretold in the Old Testament.  Third, your reasoning also can reflect on Mohammed.  Was he a liar?   Did he deceive people in claiming a revelation?

I would hope your comments about Jesus being crucified and about the resurrection are true for you in spite of the fact that the Qur’an denies it. What do you really agree with, the Qur’an or the New Testament?

He wrote: Sixth, most of all about the crucifixion, this is not just the leaders of Israel who decide (based on their depravity) the crucifixion, but all entire nation of Israel is so enthusiasm for Jesus crucifixion. None of them who feel sorry for Jesus crucified (except a little few; those who are in the inner circle of Jesus life: his mother, family, his followers). It strongly brings you and all bodies a clear clue and hint to understand how depraved entire Israel is!

My Reponse: How can you say that it was the entire nation?  The whole nation was not in Jerusalem when he was crucified!  You are condemning a whole people because of the actions of the leaders. Your wholesale condemnation of the Jewish people comes out of the influence of the Qur’an on your thinking.  If you compare the number of Jews who have won Nobel prizes in the sciences with the number of Muslims who have won these prizes you will see the promise to Abraham coming true.... “I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and be thou a blessing;  and I will bless them that bless thee, and him that curseth thee will I curse: and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed.” (Gen. 12:2-3)

You have been blessed by the Jewish people even though you don’t want to acknowledge it.

Your reasoning is misguided.  Mohammed is responsible for the killing of a whole tribe of Jewish men, and selling the rest into slavery.  On your reasoning one should say that all Muslims are depraved because of this.  I would hope you would reject such sweeping generalizations, not only for Muslims but also for everyone else including Jews.

He wrote: Seventh, in the movie Ten Commandment, the screen shows us the depravity of Israel. After they are rescued by God from Egyptian bondage and from the Red Sea, they create and worship another idol just when Moses is away to meet God for Ten Commandments. What is that mean? Israel is so depraved! How could books of them be reliable to believe in?

My Response: First, don’t use movies for your understanding of Jewish or Christian history. Hollywood is interested in making money, not converts.   Have you ever done anything contrary to Muslim beliefs?  The Jews were recently liberated from slavery.  They were on their way to learning about God and what it all means.   Now, not all the people turned to idolatry.  God’s judgement came on them but He did not give up on them because of his promise to Abraham.  The books are reliable because they tell the truth, they don’t whitewash it.  If you will read the Old Testament story you will discover that Hollywood did not stick to the script of the Bible.

He wrote: Eight, Jesus captured, tortured, and chained for crucifixion. In jail, there is another crime names Barabas. According to Israel tradition, if there are two crimes to be crucified, then both can't be crucified, only one can. So, the court will have the people to vote, which crime is to be crucified. The people vote for Jesus to be crucified, and vote Barabas to be released. Jesus? The teacher of morality? The one who sets free the woman-adulterer from stoning to death? The one who feeds the poor? The one who heals the blind and leprosy? The one who brings life back to the death? What's wrong with Israel? You got to know that only the depravity that can make Barabas set free and Jesus set to death! The depravity I say, not EXTOLMENT!     

My response: You are wrong about two people can’t be crucified, only one can.  There were two thieves crucified with Jesus, one on each side. Because some people screamed for his crucifixion that does not mean that everyone since that time who is Jewish should be condemned.  Jesus died for your sins and mine, not just because of those actions.  Moreover, you cannot blame generations following for the crucifixion.  Actually, it was your sins and my sins involved in his death.

He wrote: Ninth, it must be clear for being logic: the Evangel, Torah, Psalms are corrupted by Israel. There will be no sufficient reason to believe that Bible (NT - OT) is all pure and authentic. Both Israel and their Bible (NT - OT) are not subjects to believe in as history shows their depravity. Just cling to the history / fact, not to the system of faith. Clinging to the faith is the second matter; the first is cling to the fact!! Or, can any of Christians (or Jews as well) determine which verse of Bible (NT - OT) is as pure as it is first revealed? Or, are they determining that all verses in Bible (NT - OT) are trustworthy? If so, what about the depravity of Israel? Isn't there any correlation between the trustworthiness of the Bible (NT - OT) and the Israel depravity? How come? Where do all Christians (and Jews as well) position the depravity of Israel in the presence of Bible (NT - OT)?

My response: “Lo! We inspire thee as We inspired Noah and the prophets after him, as We inspired Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and Jesus and Job and Jonah and Aaron and Solomon, and as We imparted unto David the Psalms; And messengers We have mentioned unto thee before and messengers We have not mentioned unto thee; and Allah spake directly unto Moses;” (4:163-164, Pickthall)   “Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-livers.” (5:47, Pickthall)

Please follow my comments closely.  If the Qur’an could say this about the Scriptures when Mohammed lived, then we are talking about trustworthy Scriptures.  The only way you can defeat this is to say Mohammed is a liar, which you will not do.  We have copies of the New Testament that go back to the third century AD, and fragments that are even earlier.  There are no attempts to erase any line from the Bible.   I don’t need to repeat the issue of the depravity of Israel again.

On the other hand, how do we know the Qur’an is correct?  There were a number of copies circulating following Mohammed’s death.   There were people who knew some suras that others did not.   There were people who were killed in battle who knew suras.  Moreover, all except one copy of the Qur’an were burned.  How do we know that it was the right one?

The issue of Abrogation of suras in the Qur’an is a serious problem. Muslim theologians assert that no fewer than 124 more peaceful verses were abrogated.   Does this not pose serious questions about the reliability of the Qur’an or Mohammed, or both? Does it not raise questions about the nature of Allah who could not get it right the first time?  Was Allah or Mohammed making it up as the situation demanded?

He wrote: Tenth, David had sex with someone's wife? And sent his men to kill the husband? Lot had sex with his daughters? Jacob wrestled with God? Jesus says: "before Abraham, I am"? There is no foretell in Bible (NT - OT) about the coming of Muhammad SAW? Of course there are lines in Bible (NT - OT) that foretell the coming of Muhammad SAW, but Israelites erase them! If you deny such lines ever existed in Bible (NT - OT) but Israel erased them, so what about Israel denial on the coming of Jesus?

My Response: I am surprised that you raised the question about sex. Did David get away with it? No, God sent the prophet Nathan to convict him of sin and God brought judgment on David.  What about Mohammed’s sex life?  I can say that David sinned.  Can you say Mohammed sinned in sexual matters?

How can you say Israel erased lines in the Bible.  Where were the lines?  Please see the paragraph above in which it is clear that the Bible was written before Mohammed and there are manuscripts that are much older than the Qur’an.  Moreover, there are thousands of copies in various parts of the world.  They agree.  Do you realize what kind of conspiracy would be required to travel to various parts of the world to change all these copies?   Moreover, the Jews who were not Christians had nothing to do with the writing of the New Testament.

Jews do not deny the existence of Jesus, some of them did not accept Him as Messiah and Son of God.   But thousands did and they spread the good news all throughout the Empire.

He wrote: Eleventh, is there a magic saying: yes Israel is depraved and not a subject to believe in since the beginning of time. But, when Christian arisen, there will be an exception: Israel would be so honest only this time? Is that so?

My Response: Your comment does not make sense to me.  If you wish to explain it further I would be happy to comment on it.

He wrote: Twelfth, as Jesus is 'perfectly' crucified on the cross suffering the death, something comes to his senses: "in this way, it is impossible that all my teachings would be preserved and protected. Their depravity crucifies and double-crosses Me, then the same thing will torture and twist My Words...." Isn't that so, my brother Christians?

My Response: How can you put your words in Jesus’ mind?  Would you want anyone to put words in Mohammed’s mind like “I don’t really believe all this, but it gives me power, women, and booty.”     What you hear from the cross is, “Father, forgive them.”  Putting your words into the story is as bad as the words you would not like put into Mohammed story.

He wrote: Because this is impossible: the depraved Israel crucifies Jesus, (and murders all ancient prophets, and twist the ancient holy books)

My Response: Not all ancient prophets were murdered, and you have no evidence that Israel twisted the holy books.   If you insist you declare Jesus to be a liar, and the Qur’an has a lie in it. Which way do you want to go?

He wrote: but the depraved Israel preserves His Words... Apparently, the depravity of Israel creates, and causes the chaos in re-writing the holy teachings. As Jesus is suffering death on the cross, then can Jesus put a hope too much that His Words would be everlasting in the hands of Israel since His name is not everlasting in the hands of Israel? And you, my Christian brother! Can you put a hope too much, that Jesus' Words would be everlasting in the hands of depraved Israel?

My Response:  This has been dealt with above.

He wrote: Seems to me that I hear you say: "with or without hope, the words of 'JESUS GOD' (Jesus is god? How many gods do you have since Ten Commandment states for you that -let there be no God but your God. Where do you position the Ten Commandment in 'Jesus god'?) are indeed everlasting as the Bible states that in clear words". No, my brother! Never cling anymore to what your faith says. Just cling to what happened factually!!!!!! You are not a child anymore. You are grownup now! Put your feet back on the ground. Leave the cradle. Leave the bed-stories. Dear my Christian brother, you are not there when Jesus is crucified to know and to see what is really going on.

My Response: Christians have always affirmed belief in one God who has revealed Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.  The essence or the nature of God is one, the persons three.  If you read the New Testament you will be aware of God’s revelation of Himself.  This is from the beginning of the life of Jesus.

Your comment about “cling to what happened factually!!!!”  is worth looking at.  The Qur’an claims things that never happened. Will you be realistic and deal with facts? The Qur’an claims that Jesus spoke from the cradle and as a child made a clay pigeon, breathed into it, and it became alive. The Gospel of John, written long before this Gnostic story circulated and was heard by Mohammed, declares that Jesus’ first miracle was done at a wedding in Cana of Galilee.  You have a choice of a historical fact of Cana or a fable that is false.  One is real and one is a bedtime story in the Qur’an. You can’t make a fable into a fact.

Similarly, you were not in Mecca or Medina when Mohammed was there to see if he was a genuine prophet.   How can you trust the words of a man who robbed, killed, gave permission to lie and deceive and other sins?

He wrote: Dear my brother. You always convince yourself that the words of God in Bible (NT - OT) are everlasting as each verse therein states that. And you are so inspired and powered with that conviction. As I have told you before, one thing you should know, if indeed each line in Bible (NT - OT) is everlasting since the beginning, so why the Judaic agents deny Jesus?     

My Response: This may be hard for you to understand since Muslims do not allow freedom. The Pharisees and Sadducees rejected Jesus because of their position in power.  When you read the story the Gospels declare that these people were afraid that Rome would come and take away their positions.   They were free to rebel against God as they were free to rebel in the Old Testament.

What kind of freedom is in Islam? Can you reject the imam’s words?  Can you have different views on the Qur’an?  Can you allow non-Muslims to exist in your society?

Do you want Sharia law to be introduced against non-Muslims? Muslims have not learned that forced conversion, forced worship, forced conforming is not real. God is not pleased with this and cannot be fooled. Only the Devil would be pleased with forced worship.

He wrote: And why Jesus sees so many corruptions in the Scriptures? Why Jesus always gets involved in quarrels with the rabbis on sensitive issues? Aren't they familiar with the ideas Jesus brings? Why everything Jesus teaches is so strange to all rabbis, since Jesus teaches nothing but what lives in Bible (NT - OT), things they possess in their hands? Dear my Christian brother. Simply, there is nothing in your Bible (NT - OT), which you can hold on to.

My Response: I have already answered this above.  The Bible is trustworthy.  Even if I am disobedient to some command in the Bible, that does not make it untrue.  It is true although I may be disobedient.

He wrote: Thirteenth. The Proves of twisting:   1. In his life, Jesus worships God and only God, which means, Jesus is not a god.     

My Response: Your choice of words is unfortunate. Read the real story in Luke, 3:21-22 , “While everyone else was being baptized, Jesus himself was baptized. Then as he prayed, the sky opened up,   and the Holy Spirit came down upon him in the form of a dove. A voice from heaven said, "You are my own dear Son, and I am pleased with you."

In this passage Jesus is talking with His father which is what praying is about.  You will also note that the Christian idea of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are in these verses.  The Trinity is not something that Christians invented, the facts about it are in the early documents.

He wrote: 2. In Christianity, Jesus is indeed god. In his life, Jesus states that he won't make any changes in religion, won't come for new religion.

My Response: Matthew  5:17 “Don't suppose that I came to do away with the Law  and the Prophets. I did not come to do away with them, but to give them their full meaning.”   To give them their full meaning does not do away with them.   This is the fulfillment, not the destruction of the Law.  Matthew 28:18-20 indicates that Jesus said to his followers,

 “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,   teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” (Matthew 28:19-20)

He wrote: 3. In Christianity, Jesus is known as the founder of new religion. In his life, Jesus teaches that all men are the sons of God.

My Response: What is the basis of this statement? Jesus said to the Pharisees,“Your father is the devil, and you do exactly what he wants. He has always been a murderer and a liar. There is nothing truthful about him. He speaks on his own, and everything he says is a lie. Not only is he a liar himself, but he is also the father of all lies.”  John 8:44

 All people are a creation of God, but only those who give themselves to Jesus are the sons and daughters of God.  John 1:12-13  says,
 
 “But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,  who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.”

 To be a child of God means you have to receive Jesus as Lord.

He wrote: 4. In Christianity, Jesus is the only son of God. Jesus in his life adopts Ten Commandments that says: let there be no God but your God, the only God, God of heaven and earth. In Christian life, beside God, Jesus is indeed god supported by and on any stupid theory / rhetoric. Christians often say: "O my dear Jesus GOD..." -or- "O Jesus my GOD... " Or in complete, "God Father (it is God), God Jesus, and God Holy Spirit.... AMEN".     

My Response: If Jesus is the Son of God, or God embodied, what is wrong with addressing prayer to Him?   He is God. I would suggest that you read the Gospel of John and see the real story,
 
 “Don't you believe that I am one with the Father  and that the Father is one with me? What I say isn't said on my own. The Father who lives in me does these things.  Have faith in me when I say that the Father is one with me and that I am one with the Father. Or else have faith in me simply because of the things I do.” (John 14:10-11)

He wrote: 5. In his life, Jesus adopts Ten Commandments that says: never make any idol like My             Creation, in sky, in ocean and beneath the ground. In Christian life, even churches adopt, make, and collect so many statues like His Creations.

My Response: The issue in the Ten Commandments is that you shall not worship them. Making pictures of anything of beauty is not idolatry. An idol is something worshiped, a picture is not worshiped but frames a lovely memory of a person, landscape, or event.

He wrote: 6. In his life, Jesus never teaches some secularism. In your Christian community life now, secularism is indeed a strong value that lives among churches and monasteries.

My Response: What do you mean by secularism?  I know what it is, but do you? What is your point?

He wrote: 7. In his life, Jesus never launches war. In Christian life, war is the only 'instrument' to rule the whole world and faith; we all Muslims in the East must suffer bloody war year after year which launched by your people. While your people are launching war against our people, your priests Christianised our helpless children, brothers and sisters.

My Response: You should read the history of Islam.  I know you probably have a mentality that Muslims never start anything wrong, but Mohammed and Islam started war on the pagans of Arabia. After that Muslims invaded the west, captured Jerusalem, Egypt, North Africa, Spain and France. You need to read the shame that Muslims brought to the West.  The Crusades were only attempts to regain the Holy Land because it was once the cradle of the beginning of Christianity.  I hope you don’t have the mental mind set that you can’t accept the fact of Muslim terrorism. The air craft crashes into Twin Towers was done by Saudi men, Muslims, not Jews, or anyone else.

He wrote: 8. In his life, Jesus teaches that all women shall stay at home (women seclusion). In your Christian life, churches and your social organizations send women out to have outdoor activities.     

My Response: What evidence do you give for this?  Consider the gospels, Matthew 15:38, “There were four thousand men who ate, not counting the women and children.” Women have lots of freedom in Christian history, here they were out with Jesus along with their children.  There is no command that women be secluded. It is an injustice to women to have their secluded at home and having to wear a black tent covering their whole body in public.  This is a shame, and you ought to preach against it.  You should persuade your imam to preach about the evils done to women in Islam.

He wrote: 9. In his life, Jesus teaches and adopts circumcision. In Christian life, circumcision denied. Thanks to Paul.

My Response: You should re-read the story of circumcision in the letters of Paul.  Jesus really did not talk about circumcision except to make a point that it came before Moses. The issue was whether one had to be circumcised to enter the Kingdom of God, and the answer was no.  Faith in Jesus was required instead.

He wrote: 10. In his life, Jesus buries the death with shroud. Even they shrouded Jesus' body to bury him. In Christian life, the death is not shrouded. They dress them with decent cloth instead.

My Response: Your point is not clear. What is the issue?

He wrote: 11. Jesus stones the adulterers. In Christian life, adulterers (prostitutes) are free, stoning the adulterers rejected.

My Response: Where did Jesus stone adulterers?  Where in the New Testament is stoning adultery commanded?   You are imposing Muslim values on the life of Jesus.

He wrote: 12. Jesus only teaches Israel. In Christian life, churches teach Christianity to all nations.     

My Response: The Messiah came to Israel, but the Messiah also gave the command to go into all the world and preach the Gospel to everyone.   Keep in mind that the Christian movement did not command jihad against the unbelievers.

He wrote: 13. Jesus and his disciples don't sing. Now, all Christians sing.

My Response: How do you know they did not sing?  “But the chief priests and the teachers of the Law of Moses were angry when they saw his miracles and heard the children shouting praises to the Son of David.  The men said to Jesus, "Don't you hear what those children are saying?" "Yes, I do!" Jesus answered. "Don't you know that the Scriptures say, 'Children and infants will sing praises'?" (Matt. 21:15-16)   What do you think the Psalms of the Old Testament were?   Many of them were praises to Yahweh.  Mohammed was against music and fun.

He wrote: Why can't Christian and its people live with harmony with Jesus life? Thus, if all Christians now are inspired to live in harmony with Jesus life then based on what sources do they have? Bible (NT - OT)? Church constitutions?

My Response: There is only one source for the Christian faith and that is the Bible, predominantly the New Testament. Jesus is our Lord and Savior.

He wrote: Fourteenth. Even until today, Jews don't believe in all materials of Christians. And Christians don't believe in all materials of Judaism. The question is, who is wrong? Who is right? The only answer is, b-o-t-h are wrong! How could you be so blind while 'the proof is in the pudding'? Both Jews don't believe in Christian materials and Christians don't believe in Judaism materials only show you that you, Christians and Jews are in suspicion one to each other. Christians say that there is something wrong in Judaism, and so do Jews. It only derives us to say, that Israel is so depraved, and the blood of Israel corrupted the revelation! That's the only conclusion you can take. This is not a possibility. But this is what happens 'in an egg'; you don't and you can't see it, but it is.

My Response: Your logic is wrong. If Judaism is wrong, why must Christianity be wrong also?

One could say Judaism, Islam and Christianity don’t agree and they are all wrong.   I cannot say that they are all wrong, but Christianity completes Judaism, and there is no place for Islam as a better religion. Your antisemitism comes through in these comments again.

Moreover, Christians do not reject the Old Testament as being useless.  Jesus quoted the Old Testament and the stories of the Old Testament are the stories of the journey of faith and sometimes lack of faith.  These things were written for our encouragement. Many of the New Testament letters as well as the Gospels quote the Old Testament.

He wrote: Fifteen. Jesus says to Israel, "all the cocks haven't cock-a doodle-doo this morning, but you have denied Me three times..."

What is that mean? Why must Jesus say that to his people? Isn't that a sign of depravity? Do all Muhammad's followers deny Him in that early?

My Response: Please read the real story:  “Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad.   But after I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee.   Peter answered and said unto him, Though all menshall be offended because of thee, yet will I never be offended.  Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.   Peter said unto him, Though I should die with thee, yet will I not deny thee. Likewise also said all the disciples.    (Matthew 26:31-35)

Please remember that this was a denial for short time.  Peter was transformed by the appearance of Jesus in his resurrection and became a leader in the early church at Jerusalem later giving his life for his faith.

He wrote: The conclusion on Christian Sahada Statement I is D.O.I that stands for Depravity Of Israel. Dear my Scriptural Brother. I would like to tell you, that this is not about what your faith is trying to convince and inspire you. But this is all about what Israel is. This is all about Israel, their depravity. Talking about religion and its promises, of course would always be an interesting session.

My Response: I am sorry that you are so adamant that Israel is the problem. Mohammed’s hatred of the Jews has been taught universally in Islam. Blaming all Jews for what one group of people did is like blaming all Muslims for 9-11. Is this reasonable?  Logical?  Absolutely not. Mohammed’s hatred of the Jews was due to their dis-trust of him.  They knew he was not a legitimate prophet and he could not stand their rejection.  Their rejection undermined his authority in Medina.

He wrote: Not just Christian that is interesting, but also Hinduism, Buddhism and Islam are interesting. But what is about the background of each religion? Like a person. What he promises you all sounds like heaven comes to you. But what is he?

My Response: I would suggest that you read these articles (1,2) and see the answers.

He wrote: Simply, all the points above show us that Israelites are depraved.

My Response: Fortunately you have not proven your point!!!  You have shown your prejudices, bias, and faulty logic.

He wrote: Unfortunately, this nation is the one who conveys the Revelations. Then, is it possible that the Revelations are preserved?

No matter how strong your conviction is, still there is nothing you can do about the depravity of Israel. And thus, the depravity must have affected the purity of Bible. You can make a proof that Bible is preserved. But the question are,

1. Which Bible?
2. Where do you position the depravity of Israel in this matter?

Is it possible for a nation who are accustomed to murder all the prophets, to preserve their Books?

My Response: First, you don’t give any credit to God for the preservation of the Scriptures. Second, you haven’t proven that the Jews corrupted the Bible.  Your claim would make Jesus to be a liar, or deceived.  Third, you have not mentioned the fact that Satan got his message into the Qur’an:  “Have ye thought upon Al-Lat and Al-'Uzza And Manat, the third, the other are yours the males and His the females? (Sura 53)” Is this purity?

Fourth, you might raise the question in your self, if Satan inspired part of the Qur’an, what keeps one from asking if Satan inspired more of it, like hating the Jews, secluding women, the concept of Jihad and other things?

I am not sure why you wrote to me.  However, I have taken time to answer many of these issues.  Let me urge you to pray to God that He will show you who is the Savior.

God loves you and wants to deliver you from the slavery of false teaching.  God came in the person of Jesus to bring forgiveness, peace, and the promise of the Holy Spirit to live in your life.  On top of it, Jesus promises you the gift of everlasting life in His presence.  I hope you will come to accept His gift.   I send this to you with a prayer that God will open your eyes to Him.

Blessings.... Dallas M. Roark, Ph.D.

Source : http://answering-islam.org/authors/roark/letter1.html

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