Monday 11 November 2019

Miss Hira Saeed: Stand Up and be a Man – I


Posted by admin on 9/16/09 • Categorized as Letters

The following is a sequence of email exchanges with Miss Hira Saeed. So far, Miss Saeed has not answered any of the challenging points we offered her in our emails. She keeps jumping from one issue to another. However, we hope, that in due time, we can narrow things down better with her, and that she will be willing to discuss psecifics. Our emails with her are still ongoing. 
 
Miss Hira Saeed

You seriously need to learn to respect other peoples religions. You may have converted to another religion but that does not give you the right to disrespect Islam. By saying what you said about Islam, I personally do not think that you will have made anyone agree with you. Everyone who read that will be thinking that you are a disrespectful pathetic monster.

I am proud to be a muslim. You will regret saying all those things when it is The Day Of Judgement and Allah will punish you and everyone else who have said anything like what you have said.

All I hope is that you see sense soon and take back everything you have said and post this if you have anyhumanity.

Stand up and be a man.
If you are a man.

Editor

Dear Miss Hira Saeed
Thank you for your email and the kind words about us. Please note that our site FaithFreedom.org is a large movement comprised mostly of Ex-Muslims. No Muslim, I daresay, visits our site and life stays the same for him/her. Why? because we try to be honest and tell the truth about Muhammad and Islam. We have no ill-intentions against Muslims, not at all. Most of us were raised as Muslims, or have family memebrs and friends who are Muslims. Our goal is to research Islam and tell the truth about it using very reliable Islamic resources. Our pundits and researchers use mainly the Koran, the Ahadith, and the Sirat. All such references are used on everyday basis by Islamic scholars everywhere.
You have requested that we post your email to us. We will honor your request. I would like first to ask you to read the following about Muhammad. He was a mass murderer if you don’t know it yet. Please read it and tell me if Mr. Ali Sina, may Allah bless his soul for establishing this great site of ours, is wrong in his analysis (please note that all of Sina’s analysis is supported by references that a True Muslim cannot reject):

From Ali Sina’s Challenge

Muhammad: A Mass Murderer
There were three Jewish tribes living in and around Yathrib, the Banu Qainuqa’, the Ban Nadir and the Banu Quraiza.  Once Muhammad realized that they are not going to accept him as their new prophet, he turned against them. He banished the first two, after confiscating their properties and wealth and massacred the last one.  

Genocide of  Banu Quraiza:  (From Understanding Muhammad)
The last Jewish tribe of Yathrib to fall victim to Muhammad’s vindictiveness was the Banu Quraiza.  Soon after the Battle of the Trench (Khandaq) was over, the Meccans, fed up with Muhammad’s constant raids on their caravans, came to the gates of Medina to punish him.  Advised by a Persian believer, they dug trenches around the city making it difficult for Muhammad’s enemies (The Confederates) to enter, causing their retreat. Muhammad set his eyes on the Banu Quraiza.  He claimed that the Archangel Gabriel had visited him “asking that he should unsheathe his sword and head for the habitation of the seditious Banu Quraiza and fight them.  Gabriel noted that he with a procession of angels would go ahead to shake their forts and cast fear in their hearts,”[1] writes Al-Mubarakpouri. Al-Mubarakpouri continues: “the Messenger of Allâh immediately summoned the prayer caller and ordered him to announce fresh hostilities against Banu Quraiza,”[2]

It is important, in studying Islam, to note that the call to prayer was also the call to war. Muslim’s riots and hooliganism always initiate from the mosques after they offer their prayers.  They are most vicious during the holy month of Ramadan and on Fridays.  In a sermon commemorating the Birthday of Muhammad, in 1981, the Ayatollah Khomeini said:  

Mehrab (Mosque) means the place of war, the place of fighting.  Out of the mehrabs, wars should proceed.  Just as all the wars of Islam proceeded out of the mehrabs.  The prophet had sword to kill people.  Our Holy Imams were quite militants.  All of them were warriors.  They used to wield swords.  They used to kill people.  We need a Caliph who would chop hands, cut throats, stone people.  In the same way that the messenger of Allâh used to chop hands, cut throats, and stone people.[3]

 Muhammad headed an army of three thousand infantry men and thirty horsemen of Ansar (Helpers) andMuhajireen (Emigrants).  The Banu Quraiza was accused of conspiring against the Muslims with the Quraish.  In reality, these Muslim historians deny this charge and say the Meccans withdrew without fighting because they did not receive support from the Banu Quraiza.

When Muhammad made his intentions known, Ali, his cousin and staunch supporter, swore he would not stop until he either stormed their garrisons or was killed.  This siege lasted 25 days.  Finally the Banu Quraiza surrendered unconditionally.  Muhammad ordered the men to be handcuffed, while the women and children were confined in isolation. Thereupon the Aws tribe, who were allies of the Banu Quraiza, interceded, begging Muhammad to be lenient towards them.  Muhammad suggested that Sa‘d bin Mu‘adh, a ruffian among them who had been fatally wounded by an arrow, give a verdict on the Jews.  Sa’d was a former ally of the Banu Quraiza, but since his conversion to Islam he had a change of heart against them.  He also blamed them for the fatal wound he received when a Meccan threw an arrow during the Battle of Trench.  Muhammad knew how Sa’d felt about the Banu Quraiza. He was, after all, his bodyguard and slept in the mosque.

Sa’d’s verdict was that “all the able-bodied male persons belonging to the tribe should be killed, women and children taken prisoners and their wealth divided among the Muslim fighters.” 

Muhammad became pleased with this cruel verdict and said that “Sa‘d (had) adjudged by the Command of Allâh.”[4]  He often credited Allâh for his own decisions.  This time he chose Sa’d to verbalize his whims.

Al-Mubarakpouri adds that “In fact, the Jews deserved that severe punitive action for the ugly treachery they had harbored against Islam, and the large arsenal they had amassed, which consisted of one thousand and five hundred swords, two thousand spears, three hundred armors and five hundred shields, all of which went into the hands of the Muslims.”

What Al-Mubarakpouri forgets to mention is that the Banu-Quraiza had loaned their weapons as well as their shovels and picks to Muslims so they could dig the trench and defend themselves.  Muslims will never be grateful to those who help them.  They will take your help and will stab you in the back the moment they no longer need you.  We shall see in the next chapter the psychology of this pathology. 

Muslim historians have been quick to accuse the Banu Quraiza of the usual baseless charges to justify their massacre.  They accused them of being mischievous, causing sedition, being treacherous and plotting against Islam.  However no specifics exist as to the nature of those sins to warrant such a severe punishment and their total genocide.   Trenches were dug in the bazaar of Medina and between 600 to 900 men were beheaded and their bodies dumped in them.  

Huyai Ibn Akhtab, the chief of the Banu Nadir whose married daughter, Safiya, Muhammad took as his share of the booty when he invaded Khaibar, was among the captives.  He was brought to the victor with his hands tied from behind.  In an audacious defiance he rejected Muhammad and preferred death to submission to this brute man.  He was ordered to kneel and was beheaded on the spot.

To determine who should be killed, the youngsters were examined. Those who had grown pubic hair were bundled with the men and beheaded. Atiyyah al-Quriaz, a Jew who had survived this massacre later recounted: “I was among the captives of Banu Quraiza. They (the Muslims) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.”[5]

Muhammad killed and banished several Jewish tribes, among them are B. Qainuqa’, B. Nadir, B. Quraiza, B. Mustaliq, B. Jaun and the Jews of Khaibar.  On his deathbed, he instructed his followers to cleanse the Arabian Peninsula of all non-believers,[6] an order that Omar, the second Caliph carried out later.  He exterminated the Jews, the Christians and the pagans, forcing them to convert, leave or put them to death.

Now, enriched with the loot, Muhammad could be even generous to those who believed in him.  Anas narrated: “People used to give some of their date palms to the Prophet (as a gift), till he conquered Banu Quraiza and Banu An-Nadir, whereupon he started returning their favors.”[7] 

There is a verse in the Qur’an that speaks about the massacre of the Banu Quraiza approving Muhammad’s butcheries of their men and taking women and children as prisoners.  

He caused those of the People of the Book who helped them (i.e. the Quraish) to come out of their forts.  Some you killed, some you took prisoner. (Q. 33: 26)

[1] AR-Raheeq Al-Makhtum by Saifur Rahman al-Mubarakpuri http://islamweb.islam.gov.qa/english/sira/raheek/PAGE-26.HTM
[2] Ibid.
[3]  Ayatollah Khomeini: A speech delivered on the commemoration of the Birth of Muhammad, in 1981.
[4] Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 280:
[5] Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4390.  Sunan Abu-Dawud is another collection of hadith regarded to be sahih.
[6] Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 288
[7] Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176

Now that you have read the above Miss Hira, can you please tell me if Muhammad was indeed a mass murderer or not.
I promise you once our email exchange is about over, we’ll post you emails and our editor’s response to them.
I can promise you one thing miss Hira. Our site tries to always publish the most honest research about Islam. We love Muslims. They are our families, friends, and co-workers. We cannot extend the same embrace to Islam per se. It is an evil ideology. If you stick around long enough to research the truth about Islam, I believe you will join our holy cause.

Thank you for contacting FFI

Regards

 Miss Hira Saeed

This information you have wrote is LIES. I have read and the Qu’ran many times with translation and there is more to the Qu’ran than words written across a page. The words in the Qu’ran have a deeper meaning than what a lot of non believers see. I beg you to read the Qu’ran and the translation and see deeper than you have already. I do not believe for one second that the information you have told me is the truth. If you do only one thing today read the Qu’ran and then you may fully understand the truth. I also owe you an apology for calling you a disrespectful pathetic monster because I understand that you may be too narrow minded to understand and Allah may forgive you for that if you turn a new leaf. Please listen to me and look at the other point of view. The Muslim point of view. You will see a newer, brighter future before and after death. May Allah forgive you for your misinterpretations and see how you will change once you accept and understand the full truth.
And trust me I will NEVER change my religion no matter what you say or do.

Editor

Dear Miss Hira, thank you for your email

Please note that our site was established by Ali Sina. He was a Muslim until he read the Qur’an and Hadith. That is when he discovered what Islam is all about, and was a Muslim no more.
You are asking me to read the Qur’an. That is fine. let me narrow things down, and let us discuss a couple of verses from the Qur’an. Here is what Quran 4:34 says:

 “Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. ”

Please note that some translators use different words or add to beat women (lightly). The actual verse in Arabic says “Beat them”, no if or buts about it. Please watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO0UaBG1Bsg&feature=player_embedded

Now, do you think the creator of the universe would want women to be beaten? what kind of a sick deity is He? A realistic answer would be to say that the above verse came from Muhammad, and not from God.

Let’s look at another verse in the Qur’an (2:217):

“They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say: “Fighting therein is a grave (offence); but graver is it in the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members.” Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you Turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein.”

Do you know how this verse “came down” to Muhammad? You see, Arabs before Muhammad had some sacred months where they never fought each other, until muhammad and his pirates showed up. They attacked a commercial caravan at a place called Nakhla, killed one person, imprisoned two, and took a lot of booty. All of that was done during the sacred months. Muhammad came down with the above verse to justify what the Muslims did during a time sacred to all Arabs. Here is a link to an article on the subject of the Nakhla raid if you desire more information on this story:

http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/07/16/on-good-and-evil-muslim-umma-lessons-from-the-nakhla-raid/

Miss Hira, don’t fool yourself. People leave Islam once they know what the Qur’an is all about. They also leave Islam once they know how Muhammad lived. He was no more than mad pedophile thief who established a cult that has gone crazy. Learn the facts miss Hira, instead of staunchly defending an evil dogma.

Regards

Miss Hira Saeed

Up to this point I have been very polite and forgiving. However as you have verbally abused Islam and the propet Mohammed (PBUH) I may not be so forgiving. You have mistranslated this verse. if you would like full details about the Qu’ran I advise you to visit this website:

http://www.harunyahya.com/en.m_book_index.php

There is still time and you can still save yourself. I am sure that if you visit this website you will see what you have looked past already. I as a woman understand where a woman stand in society and where women stood back when the Qu’ran was wrote. The Qu’ran is not the prophet Mohammed’s words. They are the words of Allah. You should trust Allah. You are disabled in the fact that you can’t accept Islam. I am sure that when you read the contents of this website you will see that what you have been claiming is not true.
I hope you will open your eyes soon.

Editor
Miss Hira
I went to this site. I could not find an answer to explain the verses I told you about.
For your information also, Harun Yahya (not his real name) is not a genuine scientist. He is no more than a liar. Please watch this video about him by one of the most distinguished scientists of our time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPxGDXSJZfc&feature=related
Have a good day

To be continued…..

Source: http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/09/16/miss-hira-saeed-stand-up-and-be-a-man-i/

IHS

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